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CentralCrossing
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Welcome to my channel.
I give history lessons based off my research over various ships, people, tanks, and buildings. Enjoy the videos.
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*Information is also constantly changing do to being works in progress. Old videos might be subject to corrections in newer videos.
-The channel was originally known as Yamato30, but that has been archived.
I give history lessons based off my research over various ships, people, tanks, and buildings. Enjoy the videos.
* This channel is not sponsored in any way.
* Opinions on the topic at hand do not reflect the research of Crosser. Any misleading information, political comments, or inappropriate statements are subject to being reported and deleted. You have been warned.
*Information is also constantly changing do to being works in progress. Old videos might be subject to corrections in newer videos.
-The channel was originally known as Yamato30, but that has been archived.
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Shōkakū vs Yorktown: Getting to Midway
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1:01 Shokaku 5:07 Yorktown Enjoy the video.
Amatsukaze also have a similar case of being torpedoed but by USS Redfin (SS-272), with bow and bridge was completely blown off, fitted with wave-cutter bow but never made it back to Japan for proper repairs
Great video and thanks for work on this.
So only 3/4 s of the ship made it home.what happened to the rest of the ship..?
The Akizuki class were large (larger than the USN's Fletcher class) robust destroyers. The explosive charge in US Mark14 torpedoes was much less than IJN torpedoes, but that was a good hit. Akizuki's good design (and good crew) saved her to fight another day.
I am glad I have Kegero's Super Drawings In 3d, of Akizuki, which is useful for both, in using for building a model of either sister, and drawing. It was great hearing that one of her sisters were discovered, Niizuki. I was wondering what your thoughts are of the website Combined Fleet, and what how you found it as a source for reference for some of these topics on the Imperial Japanese Navy? Take care, and all the best.
@@christophersnyder1532 Overall, I think combined fleet is a solid website information wise when compared to others, but by no means definitive. For instance, this video and my previous one (battle of Sunda Strait) had virtually no help from it as it was vague. It also misses information occasionally like Akizuki's trials after October 23, 1943. Some articles are also old and out of date like the shokaku sinking analysis. All that said, dates and corresponding information are usually correct in my experience. Thanks, take care as well.
Another great video. Was U.S.S. Nautilus having technical issues?
USS Nautilus was comparatively old, so that is possible, but US Mark 14 torpedoes had serious problems, at least one of which was evident in her attack on Akizuki. The contact exploder often failed to set off the warhead, as happened with Akizuki. Another that may have been relevant was that until the problem was found and correction made, the things ran ~10 feet (~3 meters) deeper than set. The Mark 14s used a year later had the problems corrected and actually worked.
Mark XIV torpedoes. They were notoriously unreliable in almost every way
Is the original bow section still near Saipan?
Oh YEAH! FIRST!!!!!!
@@manilajohn0182 Long time channel supporters and regular commenters such as yourself deserve the honor occasionally.
@@centralcrossing4732 lol okay- and it IS an honor...
It is hard for me to undes¿rstand how a fighting ship could be built, that could deliver heavy blows, but could not take them. Although, Battle Cruisers were faster than BAttleships, they could not outrun their shells! For me it would have been better not to build them at all.
It took until the 1960s for the London bomb sites to go. We were broke and ships such as the Warspite and KGV were just broken up, same with Vanguard. In 1956 the RAF's last maritime rec. Lancaster flew away to be broken up at Wroughton MU.
Very interesting. Good video. Strange that Shokaku was eventually killed by Avgas vapors building up, which is what eventually destroyed the Lexington at Coral Sea. Shokaku's aircraft caused the damage that sank the Lexington.
It is probable that the stern fell off due to being weakened by the torpedo hit which jammed her rudders.
The rudder was jamed and it couldn't get away, only in circles. As it rolled over, Captain Lindemann was said to be holding a salute by the forward flag mast until the ship went under, a brave man.
Yes, he must have re-assembled himself from the millions of pieces he'd been smashed into by one of Rodeny's 16" shells that had obliterated Bismarck's bridge early on in the battle.
When looking at HMS Vanguard, that ship was very well designed and an excellent ship for a battleship era that unfortunately had come and gone, if only it and a couple more had been produced earlier... From an esthetical aspect, she was an elegant ship, thanks to the pronounced sheer compared to the HMS King George V class to improve seakeeping.
Question about a video from 4 years ago about uss maryland How long do you remember did it take to complete that ship?
The model was 1/700, rather simple. I'd say it took about 3-4 weeks to build.
Waste of time and energy, Should have built more carrier's.
Would have been a great museum for Great Britain.
HMS Vanguard was alongside in Portsmouth dockyard in 1959, and was open to visitors during a Navy Day when I holidayed in Southsea that year as a lad. A memorable moment, and the sheer size of those gun barrels has stayed with me. A most impressive ship!
I remember alighting from the train at Portsmouth Harbour and seeing her there, impressively lit up in the sunshine. It was Navy Day. (I missed what my father remembered there, a decade before...the place jam-packed with D-Day ships of every type).
Yamamoto had served as captain of Akagi years before so he was reluctant to order the ship scuttled
Wow, they were ordered into a massacre….
Fast forward 5 decades --> & the world does a shocked Pikachu face when Japan creates the DDH (Helicopter Destroyer). Ships of less than 10k tones that carry about 24 helicopters. Fast forward another 2 ½ decades, & the 2 latest ones are undergoing major refits (1 done, 2nd one ongoing), to be able to handle the F-35 Lightening II S/VTOL variant (the Short Take-Off & Vertical Landing version). I guess, old habits die very hard. Lol
First- class video on an under- appreciated subject of the Pacific war...
My Dad was a U.S. Marine manning one of the guns on deck and also a survivor of the sinking . He also survived the entire war in Burma cutting the railroad tracks through the jungle in P.O.W. Camps . There is supposed to be a memorial in downtown Houston Texas and a yearly meeting that was for survivors and their families from what I understand . There is a webpage about the U.S.S. Houston with a list of those that passed away during the battle . Survivors of the battle and p.o.w. camp and the dates of passing for those survivors that passed later in life .
Thanks for video! James D Hornfischer's book Ship of Ghosts has a really chilling account of the battle. It was a great audio book to listen to while going to and from class at my University!
I am also watching films on the IJA, from the Chinese perspective, as well, mainly for reference for my comics, very interesting, even if many are purley ficticious. Take care, and all the best.
That does sound interesting. Reminds me of when you recommended the Great War of Archimedes, an entertaining historical fiction on Yamato. The Chinese front is definitely overlooked, so it's nice when it gets attention. Thanks, take care as well.
It is sometimes unclear regarding after a battle, what exactly happened. Almost similar with a crime scene, it takes time to learn all the details, and filter out any inconsistencies. Great illustrations as always, looking forward for your next video. Take care, and all the best.
German Battleships are properly referred to as ,'He', !
No they're not.
Quality content. Always look forward to your presentations.
D K Brown wrote he thought Vanguard would have a good chance of successfully engaging the Yamato.
Vast amounts of good quality steel eh? - should keep the more hopeful magnet-fishers busy for a couple of Millennia : )
There is also the asinine decision by Winston Churchill to pause all capital ship and carrier construction for six months, in favour of escorts. This delay has massive knock-on effects to all programmes. Workers had been moved and retrained etc. It was more like a full year delay (one third of the build time for a Battleship). Churchill as First Lord of the Admiralty, (political head) twice, both times almost ruined the Royal Navy.
Why was construction of escorts an 'asinine' decision?
@@dovetonsturdee7033 Escort construction had been underway since irrc 1938. Yards and workers were up to speed and efficient. The Flower class had been designed for this scenario. Any yard that could built a commercial fishing hull could build Flowers. Escorts would be ready when we needed them. The moving of men and material from the cap ships, meant that those men had to learn how to build an escort. The changing of long lead items like engines and turbine orders, halted work on the cap ship ones. Case in point. It takes as long to construct a 15 or 16 inch gun barrel, as it does to build the ship. Roughly 2-3 years. So, just as all the men had be retrained to escorts, and material started to arrive for the extra ships. The workers had to travel back to the cap ships, blow the rust off those skills etc. Then factories have to find or move workers to restart the cap ship equipment. If you look into cap ship construction. You will often find that orders for guns, turbines and armour are orders before the first steel I cut for the ship. That stuff takes so long to make. Logistics and economy planning is both interesting and numbing boring to read. It is how wars are won. Dislocating a carefully constructed after work plan and schedule always has knock on effects without a lot of planning, ahead of time.
Had to laugh . several short comings on British capital ships as a result of Bismarck engagement. (1) don't send a ship that's in need of mechanical refurbishment. (2) Don't send a ship straight out of the dockyards. (3) Ensure the admiral has some good luck. Otherwise fine🙂 RIP all
1). & 2). Would you suggest, as an alternative, that Bismarck & Prinz Eugen should have been allowed unchallenged access to the Atlantic, instead?
@@dovetonsturdee7033 Depends, hind sight is a wonderful thing and not available to those who take decisions. That has to be borne in mind- but strategically would it have mattered that much. Perhaps the orders could have been couched more in the frame of monitor until Force H arrives etc. We know that Lutjens was ordered not to take on enemy units- his doing so rendered "Rhineuebung" useless and he had to detach PE to deflect the enemy- not what the operation was about. Merchantmen sunk nil. Effect on supply nil. But he had little option. Certainly the propaganda effect was important. So on reflection both sides failed didn't they?🙂
@@leoroverman4541 Force H was only involved after Hood was sunk. Until then, it was more likely that it would be sent to the eastern Mediterranean to support the Mediterranean Fleet with the evacuation of Crete. The only hindsight is on the part of those who argue that Hood's fate was inevitable. At the time, the belief was that Hood & Prince of Wales were capable of combatting Bismarck, just as it was believed that, had Lutjens used the Iceland-Faroes Gap instead, KGV & Repulse would have done the same. Why do you think the British failed? Hood & PoW prevented Lutjens from reaching the wider Atlantic, and Bismarck's damage forced the abandonment of her operation. She made for St. Nazaire, but was sunk by the Royal Navy on the way. It rather appears that the British succeeded in their aim.
@@dovetonsturdee7033 Force H was already at sea in the event that B and PE slipped past them. In fact Holland thought they had done so until Norfolk and Suffolk corrected that misapprehension. They were not sent to sea to avenge Hood, that happened as a result of Lutjens having to abort RhineUebung which took him in their course.
A truly good looking ship although that should not count for a great deal.
good research-very informative, and interesting, great job.
Interesting that the only mention of cast iron was in describing the ram so I presume when it was cast there was no further processing, and yet I read that the iron plating was also cast but does not appear in it's description.
My late Dad served on the Vanguard between 1947 to 1953. He always recalled that he missed out on the Royal Tour of South Africa on the Vanguard by King George VI in 1952 due to the Kings sudden death. Great ship tragic to be scrapped after just 14 years’ service.
The ship did not have a role. There was no need for it.
Wow !
Very interesting! A few thoughts: • Given that the very reliable WW1-era 15” main guns were improved and became ballistically superior to the much newer 14” design, you have to ask why the latter had so many problems in action. The travails of the Prince of Wales against the Bismarck in 1941 are well known with nearly all ten guns suffering malfunctions and being inoperable. But even by late 1943 the Duke of York was suffering similar malfunctions against the Scharnhorst. All in all that design has to be judged pretty much a failure, and a considerable waste of scarce resources, i.e. time and money. • All previous RN capital ships had been cursed with a ridiculously low bow and forecastle, which rendered them very poor sea-boats, large amounts of spray being thrown over the bows in even moderate seas and huge quantities of green water coming over in heavier weather (in a trip across the Atlantic in one of these ships, Lord Beaverbrook caustically remarked that he might just as well have been in a submarine.) Apart from being undesirable in many other ways this played havoc with the rangefinders, as was shown in the action with Bismarck. Finally, with Vanguard their Lordships of the Admiralty saw sense and gave it a proper bow, which considerably enhanced its sea-keeping abilities.
You ignore the fact that the PoW was only just completed and still had shipyard people aboard when she engaged Bismarck. She was certainly not fully 'worked up'. Duke of York was in action for a very prolonged period and fired 52 broadsides, there are few battleship actions that used that amount of main armament ammunition. It is not surprising that exhausted gun crews , late in the action, made drill errors that caused some loss of firepower. The 14in guns of DoY wrecked Scharnhorst, knocking out A and B turrets very quickly and a shell penetrated a boiler room causing the loss of speed that doomed the German ship. The BL 14in gun was the only battleship main armament that was instrumental in destroying two modern battleships in WWII. The 14in guns proved very effective.
@@urseliusurgel4365 There is a difference between working up the crew to fighting efficiency and doing the same for the mechanicals of a ship. But it quickly became clear that the 14” guns of the Prince of Wales didn’t work properly, being prone to frequent malfunctions. And up in the Denmark Strait she would have been quickly overwhelmed and finished off by the Bismarck, being quite unable to defend herself due to those malfunctioning guns. So very wisely she turned and fled the scene. Amazingly the Germans did not pursue, allowing her to escape. However, over two years later the Duke of York was still suffering similar malfunctions, which clearly show faults in the design. But you ignored my original point. Given that the very reliable WW1-era 15” guns for Vanguard were upgraded and became ballistically superior to the new 14” design, you have to ask why they didn’t adapt that well-proven design rather than start with a blank sheet and a much more complicated set-up. Every designer knows a brand-new design, let alone a very complicated one, will have plenty of teething problems to be ironed out. But if the design is faulty and they can’t be eliminated, that makes it much worse. So I don’t agree they were ‘very effective.’ More like ‘very defective.’
@@lawrieflowers8314 The London Naval Treaty of 1935 restricted the calibre of the main armament of new battleships to 14 inches. The British were eager to bring the KGVs into service in order to replace the outdated R class, and reluctantly accepted this limitation.
The Cornelius de Witte Class shown in the book FAR AFT and FAINTLY
The most graceful English battleship in my opinion- pity about the cut off stern .
It all goes to show that by loosing the use of your rudder then you are doomed no matter how powerful you are.
Thanks for the video !! well done
Developing a ship that should never have been built.
Love your stuff centralcrossing, keep it up!
nothing pertinent to add. other than feeding the maws of the algo-deities.
This is the best single video summary of the battlecruiser concept that I’ve yet seen. Well done.
Obsolete when entering service perhaps, but one of the best looking battleships to ever sail the seas !
That was excellent. Every image was new to me. Vanguard was a handsome looking vessel. Many thanks.
Very good video. Excellent images.
A very good video thank you. As completed her tertiary aramament was all 40mm Bofors.